Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

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Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  Xavier on Sun 16 Mar - 11:02

I open this subject for a special purpose:
The goal is to list all armies possible in order to be able to check if we have at least two counters for each of them !

Of course we'll have to stay very general, so I suggest maximum three different builds per armies (maybe exception to 4-5 if very various builds exist)

Bretonnia:
-flying circus
-non flying circus

Empire
-light congress
-bus de chevaliers
-shooty list

Ogres:
-double canon
-full mournfangs
-balanced normal list

Démons
-GUO
-LOC
-DP with death

HE
-star dragon - frostie
-cavalry bus
-White Lions + full shooting
-white lions + bus of silver helms

CHD
-3 warmachines + kadaai
-4 machines full shooting

OG
-normal list with lots of trolls
-normal lists with fewer trolls

VC
-16 CH + death
-terrorgheist + 20 hexwraiths
-cavalery bus

Skaven
-double canon
-bell + HPA

Dwarves
-
-

Woodelves
-new book

Tomb Kings
-
-

Beastmen
-
-


I'm waiting for your ideas  Smile 

When all armies will be gathered, we'll be able to put + / 0 / - on each army, and thus see where we have too many + and where we have less + and more -
We are then able to modify our metagame accordingly, to better fit possible opponent (ex if we are very good at counterring elves but less good at countering Chaos/Empire, we can take out an Elves counter and take an army better an opening heavy armoured units, or switch from lore of shadow to lore of metal on one of our lists.


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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  2dipicche on Sun 16 Mar - 11:37

DoC:
- no lord list (without winds of magic you don't need the reroll and it could be a nice idea to play without lvl4)

Vampires:
- 16 crypt horrors + 2 banshee and no lvl4 death
- terrorgheist+lvl4 death/hexwraiths

WoC:
- double cannon with DP
- stubborn lord
- double nurgle DPs
- too many options here to write everything ...

Skaven:
- only one possible list with those restrictions
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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  Dim on Sun 16 Mar - 11:44

Dark elves:

-Full characters
-Infantery build with death+ pegasus

Vampires:

-Vargheist spam?

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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  darksteve on Sun 16 Mar - 13:41

Skaven:
I think there are two options:
double-seer with double cannon or the bell list. I still believe, that it's a valuable option, even more, when you can field also the HPA and 3 units of gutter runners. But it will depend on which enemies you wanna pair skavens.

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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  sevic on Sun 16 Mar - 14:37

HE:
Helm bus, white lion BoWD, frosty
Defensive with phenix guard and without frosty

Ogre:
Death star, maneaters (like the french one from last year)



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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  ABT on Mon 17 Mar - 8:55

DE: full peg (with lvl 4 death on peg withthe cloak)

Ogres: full leedblechers, fire bellies (2 ), low cost gb and general bruiser. Plus double canon.

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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  ABT on Mon 17 Mar - 8:57

But i think That full leedblechers need lvl 4 heaven more than the second canon

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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  Xavier on Tue 18 Mar - 15:42


I updated the list, and now I'm waiting for ideas for missing entries  Smile 

Once the document will be finalised, we'll create an excel document with - 0 + and thus we'll be able to evaluate our current metagame with the 5-6 armies we are sure to take and see what is missing.

Waiting for your feedback  Smile 
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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  Dim on Sun 30 Mar - 10:36

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuOt8rlD-jtQdEpfVmM2bVN6VGZUOVkzS2lMZGJSdEE&usp=sharing

I created a google doc so that you can enter your feelings directly.
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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  Xavier on Sun 30 Mar - 14:30


Awesome, just completed mine quickly, even if it's going to need new adjustements (I did it with the pegasus list)

Please everybody does that with different armies he can play  Smile 
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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  Xavier on Fri 16 May - 13:53


We still matchups for:

Kris : Deamons
Victor : double seer list
Andy : HE
Arnaud : OK
Stefan : VC (hexwraiths + standard build)
Everybody : OG

Thanks !
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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  KrogGar on Fri 16 May - 16:30

Did it, but it is realy a vague estimation...

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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  darksteve on Fri 16 May - 16:52

I added for two VC builds. My estimations are based on an assumption that this specific match is well tested. But maybe I'm too optimistic in some cases Smile

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Re: Listing of armies to prepare our metagame:

Post  ABT on Mon 19 May - 20:53

My estimations.

I m perhaps 1 point optimistic sometimes, (HE for example. but I think that I can do something good, between canon, spear and poison shooting)

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