Swiss forum

[Dim]

As Buchi asked, I'm opening a new thread to talk about creating a whole swiss warhammer forum.

I have a server that I can use to host such a website, the only extra cost will be 18.- per year for the domain name, but I can live with this (and compensate with some adds).
Then we can have any domain name we want.

But we will need some people interested in giving life to such a forum, at least in the beggining, and maybe have contact with teams of other forums to see if they are intersted in such a project.
I'm thinking of a place where you can announce a tournament, ask/answer all questions about it and then debrief the tournament (what you liked/disliked).
Also there should be a section where you can talk about painting, and so on, and also a rule section, and so on.

The only inter region forum is a purely competitve one, I mean the ETC one. For the sake of develloping the community, I think it would be a good idea to make a forum which is not centered around ETC.
If you have, any ideas, contact, comment, feel free to respond to this subject.

Cheers,

Dim

[Xavier]

I strongly support the idea, and that would be really great if we could have our own server!

But we have to keep in mind that it's really difficult to make a forum live.
The advantage we have, is that we already have a good basis here.
I don't know if it would be possible, to transfer this forum to our own server?

This way we could add new main section to this one.

1) Tournaments
-briefing
-debriefing
2) Hobby
-gallery
-other stuff
-...
3) ETC Forum
-sections here

It would be like an expanded Swiss-ETC forum, where we could chat about non ETC-related things, what I think we would all do here

It would be of course mandatory to write in english.

And I think, the most important is to keep it very small. Like twice the size we have now, with as few sections as we can. Otherwise it will be like spreading butter of a too big toast (thanks Bilbo haha), and that would discourage people to come here.

I'd say, let's start small and see where we can go

[darksteve]

I like the idea

But what I can tell you so far: I know from several people in some forums from the german swiss part, that they don't want to have "one big swiss forum", but rather like to have individual forums for their clubs.
Thus, I think it could be a bonus for this forum if it is mainly around ETC.
Of course some hobby section could be good and so on, but if there is no special focus, which highlights it from the other, most of the "german-swiss" people wil prefer a forum where they can speak german (I don't know how it is in the romandie).

[Dim]

I think that a rule section and a briefing/debriefing section for tournament can be of real help for the community. And maybe the best peintors of switzerland want to talk with each other, to see other ideas and concepts, and I doubt that they are all of them in the same club.

In my opinion, it's really something that we lack here in Switzerland (and that rise the Röstigraben). Recall for instance the difficulty we had with publishing the lists of the team tournament!

[darksteve]

I think you missunderstood me
I'm totally with you and think it would be a good thing to have this forum.
But I think it wont work as "the" large swiss forum, because I read some of such discussions in the german part and most of the admins of these forums didn't like the idea of having one big overall forum.

Nevertheless it should be tried in regard with this ETC-forum and I support the idea. Maybe we get enough members and activity, that the other forums might join

[ElDorte]

i really also like the idea of a hole swiss forum.

It would make the players more familiar with each other and we could talk to players that dont comme to tourneys often.

[Pulps]

I also agree with the initiative.


@Darksteve: Players can still be part of both communities: follow the swiss one if they are interested for tournaments, events and so on, or rather staying in our forums, to discuss in their own language their own threads. Both things can exist.

If there will be a positive reaction by the swiss player it would be very nice.


Pulps

[Buchi]

I already said, I much support the idea. To show that, I will sponsor the 18 francs for the first year, if we can leave out advertising.

In regard to the size/content of the Forum, I have to agree with Stefan - we already had several attempts to at least consolidate the swissgerman forums into on. Those have all failed miserably especially as the clubs wanted to maintain their own forum, for whatever reason.

Hence I support the idea to start with a lean forum that incorporates the structure suggested by Xavier. Ideally we should incorporate this forum, so that people can see, what was previously discussed ETC related and gain some insights. This might also help to break up some prejudices.

[Xavier]

Hence I support the idea to start with a lean forum that incorporates the structure suggested by Xavier. Ideally we should incorporate this forum, so that people can see, what was previously discussed ETC related and gain some insights. This might also help to break up some prejudices.

I fully support that.
I don't see any issues having the ETC Forum open, since we have now open lists and as I said, I doubt anybody care about swiss strategies anyway

Let's start small, we have to be aware that at first the only active members will be us, and maybe people will be interested in reading our bullshits, so they might come more and more, and then we can think about something bigger.

But for now we have to do thing this way:
-make a forum that would allow us, the ETC-related people, to talke about non ETC stuff.
If we can start with that and make it live by ourselves, then other people might join the show step by step

[Dim]

I've seen that bbactif.com has a politic of not letting people change the server.
It seems that they are making money with adds. Thus, they don't give us the database if we want to perform a migration to something else.

As a consequence, if we go on my server, then we "loose" what has been done here... or we loose a lot of time copy/pasting content (or doing a script to do that), so I'm not sure what would be the best solution.

Another option is to simply include a link to here, maybe.

For the domain name, it's only if we want (and I strongly support the idea) to have an obvious domain name like
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

But I can also provide for free something like [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] (I already own the domain name unimath.ch).

For the funding stuff, adds like there are now is an option, and not the only one, of course.

[Buchi]

-make a forum that would allow us, the ETC-related people, to talke about non ETC stuff.
If we can start with that and make it live by ourselves, then other people might join the show step by step .

I think that the tournament section can and hopefully will achieve that quite successfully. There are obviously more players there, then here in the forum.
If tournament organisers link their tourneys to this forum, that will create enough interest and discussions and might easily bring these people into touch with the ETC as well as it is basically the "next step". So imo much will depend on wether we can convince organisers to answer questions and respond to feedback in this forum. From my perspective it is also a gain for the organzers as they receive a plattform to make their tourneys known. Players can answer at least some questions that might be there in regard to rules or comp and the feedback from the community might help to have better tournaments overall and to come up with better or at least wider accepted comp etc pp.

[darksteve]

About the name:
I would be carefull with a name that contains "warhammer".
GW made some trouble to such websites in the past, because they don't want that other people use it. Maybe they changed their oppionion, since the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] still exists with that name (there was also a discussion about that).

[Xavier]

So imo much will depend on wether we can convince organisers to answer questions and respond to feedback in this forum

You can be sure already that 90% of the french part tournaments will use it, since we're organizing them

I've seen that bbactif.com has a politic of not letting people change the server.
It seems that they are making money with adds. Thus, they don't give us the database if we want to perform a migration to something else.

That's sad, given that it would be nice to keep the work done here.

One question, wouldn't it be possible to keep the free bbactif server and simply enlarge this forum and make it open to the public?
Since those servers are working pretty well (much bigger forums have been using it with success for years now) and it makes it free and easy to use.
And it's quite obvious that our forum will never reach a size that needs a better support than the one provided herein.

[Buchi]

I would not mind keeping this forum, though switching the forum to English would be mandatory imo.

[Xavier]

I would not mind keeping this forum, though switching the forum to English would be mandatory imo.

Mine is in english:
Profile-preference-english

The forum is now in english for new users as well
(you can log out to see)

[Dim]

I think we can still change the domain name, even if we stay there, because swiss-etc is not exactly suitable for a whole community forum.

Now anyone can read the forum but one need to register to post messages.

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