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Post  2dipicche on Sun 5 Jun - 20:36

Unnamed2400 Pts - Daemons of Chaos Army

1 Lord of Change @ 600.0 Pts
General; Magic Level 3; Lore of Tzeench
Tzeentch's Will [70.0]
Power Vortex [30.0]

1 Herald of Khorne @ 190.0 Pts
Battle Standard
Armour of Khorne [15.0]
1 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 165.0 Pts
Magic Level 2; Lore of Life
Master of Sorcery [25.0]
Spell Breaker [25.0]

1 Herald of Slaanesh @ 115.0 Pts
Siren Song [25.0]

20 Bloodletters of Khorne @ 307.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Icon of Endless War [25.0]
1 Bloodreaper @ [12.0] Pts

9 Daemonettes of Slaanesh @ 175.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Siren Standard [25.0]
1 Alluress @ [12.0] Pts

9 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch @ 138.0 Pts
Musician
1 Iridescent Horror @ [12.0] Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Bloodcrushers of Khorne @ 360.0 Pts
Musician
5 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

5 Flamers of Tzeench @ 175.0 Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 1

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 61


Total Army Cost: 2400.0
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Post  David "Phar" Schreyer on Mon 20 Jun - 7:36

@2dipiche

hmm.... i think the roster is ok.
some ideas:

1 Lord of Change @ 600.0 Pts
General; Magic Level 3; Lore of Tzeench
Tzeentch's Will [70.0]
Power Vortex [30.0]

- i like to play this one with two head so he gains +6 for casting, i thinks thats very nice. with lore of tzeentch.
because you can cast the two bid missiles with only 2 dices. (inaverage)
i tested that at 3 thournaments never loose one game. (one draw)


5 Bloodcrushers of Khorne @ 360.0 Pts
Musician
5 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

- i am not sure about this guys. for me i think they are very expensive.
i would prefere 6-8 slaanesh fiends.
- but i didnt play these guys till now.



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Post  2dipicche on Wed 22 Jun - 20:52

remember that we play 2400 points, so max 600 for Lords.


Lord of Change 450
3° level 50
+2 to cast 75
4° level 35

=610


so what you can have is +5 to cast. ennemy will almost everytime have +4. Are you sure that it's usefull to spend those points for a +1?


in 8ed i learned that +1 power dice is stronger than +1 to cast and the reroll too. In my opinion my LoC is better and i'm pretty sure of that Very Happy





crushers are strong believe me Very Happy





i have another list by the way:


Unnamed2400 Pts - Daemons of Chaos Army

1 Bloodthirster @ 550.0 Pts
General; Heavy Armour
Awesome Strength [75.0]
Immortal Fury [25.0]

1 Herald of Khorne @ 215.0 Pts
Battle Standard
Firestorm Blade [25.0]
Armour of Khorne [15.0]
1 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 165.0 Pts
Magic Level 2; Lore of Light
Master of Sorcery [25.0]
Spell Breaker [25.0]

1 Herald of Slaanesh @ 115.0 Pts
Siren Song [25.0]

21 Bloodletters of Khorne @ 319.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Icon of Endless War [25.0]
1 Bloodreaper @ [12.0] Pts

9 Daemonettes of Slaanesh @ 175.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Siren Standard [25.0]
1 Alluress @ [12.0] Pts

9 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch @ 138.0 Pts
Musician
1 Iridescent Horror @ [12.0] Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

6 Bloodcrushers of Khorne @ 430.0 Pts
Musician
6 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 63


Total Army Cost: 2397.0


let's say that it's more direct with the thirster.



the problem is that, if with LoC i can play the match from distance trying to score 16-4 with this list i can't. i'll try to score 20-0 in easy match (lizards, vampires, maybe skaven, chaos, TK, beasts, ... )

at the beginning i was not sure i could try to push my match. now i'm a little bit more confident (i played a lot lately, even difficult matches) and with some more test and right pairings i can do it.
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Post  David "Phar" Schreyer on Thu 23 Jun - 8:28

@2dipicche

@lord of Change.
Lord of Change 450
3° level 50
+2 to cast 75
4° level 35

=610

yes your right, normally i played like that with 2500 points.....

so with 2400 I would play your combination too.

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I like both lists in total. (even If i am not shure about the bloodcruhers i would prefer slaaneshfiends 6-8 )

I played both lists already at home. i like the boodcrusher and the Lord of change.

- but the bloodletters are quit shitty without a Herald of Khorne, I would try to get a second in the roster. (perhaps put out siren standart and 5 furies)


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Post  2dipicche on Thu 23 Jun - 10:47

siren standard is just broken with thirster Very Happy

if i charge with them (and i can do if we are in 18") you cannot flee. and this is for the rest of the turn (as you still be charged by them) so I can put thirster (or crushers) in combat and take easy overruns...





btw it depends what we need:

-if we need an army that doesn't take too many risks the chicken is the best

-if i can be thrown against armies like vampires, lizards, beasts, why not skaven or something like that so the thirster is the way Very Happy
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Post  David "Phar" Schreyer on Wed 13 Jul - 7:33

i would play the list with the bloodthirster

Unnamed2400 Pts - Daemons of Chaos Army

1 Bloodthirster @ 550.0 Pts
General; Heavy Armour
Awesome Strength [75.0]
Immortal Fury [25.0]

1 Herald of Khorne @ 215.0 Pts
Battle Standard
Firestorm Blade [25.0]
Armour of Khorne [15.0]
1 Juggernaut @ 50] Pts
i think i wouldnt take firestormblade, bacause if he charge with the unit he can be challanced by hero wth 2+ save against fire.


1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 165.0 Pts
Magic Level 2; Lore of Light
Master of Sorcery [25.0]
Spell Breaker [25.0]
I would take lore of live so you can give the bloodthirster LPs back.
and u can spell the 6th Spell with all your dices


1 Herald of Slaanesh @ 115.0 Pts
Siren Song [25.0]

21 Bloodletters of Khorne @ 319.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Icon of Endless War [25.0]
1 Bloodreaper @ [12.0] Pts

9 Daemonettes of Slaanesh @ 175.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Siren Standard [25.0]
1 Alluress @ [12.0] Pts

9 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch @ 138.0 Pts
Musician
1 Iridescent Horror @ [12.0] Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

6 Bloodcrushers of Khorne @ 430.0 Pts
Musician
6 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts
i would definetly take flamers in

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 63


Total Army Cost: 2397.0




- maybe take out the Siren Standard because (in german book) the effect only works if the charce is successfull
- i think u need flamers



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i would play more like

1 Kommandant: 550 Pkt. 27.5%
3 Helden: 445 Pkt. 22.2%
5 Kerneinheiten: 570 Pkt. 28.4%
0 Eliteeinheit
3 Seltene Einheiten: 710 Pkt. 35.5%

*************** 1 Kommandant ***************
Blutdämon 450 Punkte, General kostenlos
+ Gewaltige Stärke 75 Pkt., Unvergängliche Wut 25 Pkt. -> 100 Pkt.
- - - > 550 Punkte

*************** 3 Helden ***************
Herold des Tzeentch 115 Punkte
+ Spruchbrecher 25 Pkt., Meister der Zauberei 25 Pkt. -> 50 Pkt.
+ Lehre des Lebens -> 0 Pkt.
- - - > 165 Punkte

Herold des Khorne 100 Punkte
+ Moloch des Khorne 50 Pkt. -> 50 Pkt.
+ Rüstung des Khorne 15 Pkt. -> 15 Pkt.
- - - > 165 Punkte

Herold des Slaanesh 90 Punkte
+ Sirenengesang 25 Pkt. -> 25 Pkt.
- - - > 115 Punkte

*************** 5 Kerneinheiten ***************
23 Zerfleischer 276 Pkt., Musiker 6 Pkt., Standartenträger 12 Pkt., Champion 12 Pkt.
- - - > 306 Punkte

10 Rosa Horrors 120 Pkt., Champion 12 Pkt.
+ Lehre des Tzeentch -> 0 Pkt.
- - - > 132 Punkte

10 Dämonetten 120 Pkt., Champion 12 Pkt.
- - - > 132 Punkte

5 Chaosgargoyle 60 Pkt.

5 Chaosgargoyle 60 Pkt.

*************** 3 Seltene Einheiten ***************
6 Feuerdämonen 210 Pkt., Champion 15 Pkt.
- - - > 225 Punkte

6 Zerschmetterer 420 Pkt., Musiker 10 Pkt.
- - - > 430 Punkte

1 Slaaneshbestien 55 Pkt.


Gesamtpunkte Dämonen des Chaos : 2395


i have

+ same heros
+ same core units
+ 6 flamers (they are important, they are too good not to play)
+ 1 crusher

- magic standards
- 1 fiend
- 5 gargs

(if i have to much rare points you can take out the fiend or a crusher)


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Post  Pulps on Wed 13 Jul - 11:38

Hey Phar,

Picche cannot see your proposal list but I'll certanly speak with him about your ideas on tel.

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Post  Pulps on Thu 14 Jul - 14:27

Final list

Alan Roncoroni (C) - 2400 Pts - Daemons of Chaos Army

1 Bloodthirster @ 550.0 Pts
General; Heavy Armour
Awesome Strength [75.0]
Immortal Fury [25.0]

1 Herald of Khorne @ 215.0 Pts
Battle Standard
Armour of Khorne [15.0]
Firestorm Blade [25.0]
1 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 165.0 Pts
Magic Level 2; Lore of Light
Master of Sorcery [25.0]
Spell Breaker [25.0]

1 Herald of Slaanesh @ 115.0 Pts
Siren Song [25.0]

21 Bloodletters of Khorne @ 319.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Icon of Endless War [25.0]
1 Bloodreaper @ [12.0] Pts

9 Daemonettes of Slaanesh @ 175.0 Pts
Standard; Musician
Siren Standard [25.0]
1 Alluress @ [12.0] Pts

9 Pink Horrors of Tzeentch @ 138.0 Pts
Musician
1 Iridescent Horror @ [12.0] Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

5 Chaos Furies @ 60.0 Pts

6 Bloodcrushers of Khorne @ 430.0 Pts
Musician
6 Juggernaut @ [0.0] Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts

1 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 55.0 Pts



Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 63


Total Army Cost: 2397.0


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