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Post  2dipicche on Sun 5 Jun - 20:38

Unnamed2400 Pts - Lizardmen Army

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 300.0 Pts
General; 1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Life; Battle Standard
# Unfathomable Presence [0.0]

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 290.0 Pts
1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Death
# Focused Rumination [0.0]
Bane Head [15.0]

1 Skink Chief @ 380.0 Pts
Stegadon War-spear [50.0]
1 Ancient Stegadon @ [275.0] Pts
4 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

1 Skink Priest @ 105.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Cube of Darkness [40.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 90.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25.0]

26 Saurus Warriors @ 327.0 Pts
Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Champion @ [12.0] Pts

9 Skink Skirmishers @ 76.0 Pts
Blowpipe
1 Skink Brave @ [6.0] Pts

9 Skink Skirmishers @ 76.0 Pts
Blowpipe
1 Skink Brave @ [6.0] Pts

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

9 Skinks @ 64.0 Pts
Javelin; Shield; Musician
1 Skink Brave @ [8.0] Pts

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

1 Ancient Stegadon @ 275.0 Pts
2 Giant Blow Pipes
5 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

3 Salamander Hunting Packs @ 225.0 Pts
9 Skink Handlers @ [45.0] Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 96


Total Army Cost: 2398.0
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Re: Lizardmen

Post  2dipicche on Mon 6 Jun - 20:33

Unnamed2400 Pts - Lizardmen Army

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 305.0 Pts
General; 1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Life; Battle Standard
# Higher State of Consciousness [0.0]
Gleaming Pendant [5.0]

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 290.0 Pts
1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Death
Bane Head [15.0]
# Focused Rumination [0.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 105.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Cube of Darkness [40.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 90.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25.0]

26 Saurus Warriors @ 327.0 Pts
Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Champion @ [12.0] Pts

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

9 Skinks @ 64.0 Pts
Javelin; Shield; Musician
1 Skink Brave @ [8.0] Pts

6 Kroxigors @ 330.0 Pts
Great Weapon

6 Kroxigors @ 330.0 Pts
Great Weapon

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

3 Salamander Hunting Packs @ 225.0 Pts
9 Skink Handlers @ [45.0] Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 105


Total Army Cost: 2396.0
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Re: Lizardmen

Post  2dipicche on Thu 9 Jun - 18:53

jonathan version:




Unnamed2400 Pts - Lizardmen Army

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 310.0 Pts
General; 1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Life; Battle Standard
# Higher State of Consciousness [0.0]
Banner of the Eternal Flame [10.0]

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 290.0 Pts
1 Discipline; Magic Level 4
# Focused Rumination [0.0]
Bane Head [15.0]

1 Skink Chief @ 380.0 Pts
Stegadon War-spear [50.0]
1 Ancient Stegadon @ [275.0] Pts
4 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

1 Skink Priest @ 105.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Cube of Darkness [40.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 90.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25.0]

26 Saurus Warriors @ 327.0 Pts
Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Champion @ [12.0] Pts

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

9 Skinks @ 64.0 Pts
Javelin; Shield; Musician
1 Skink Brave @ [8.0] Pts

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

1 Ancient Stegadon @ 275.0 Pts
2 Giant Blow Pipes
5 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

3 Salamander Hunting Packs @ 225.0 Pts
9 Skink Handlers @ [45.0] Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 96


Total Army Cost: 2396.0
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Re: Lizardmen

Post  Pulps on Tue 21 Jun - 8:37

Hey!

Dunno but in my opinion 2x3 terradons are a standard choise to do in every liz armylist.^^


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Post  Buchi on Tue 21 Jun - 12:16

I agree with Pulps - some Terras would be a nice addition.

What I do not get are the reasons for the Lvl 1 Skink Priests? Neither of the Slaan has used his Arcane Slot so they could take up Scroll and Cube which would free 130 points towards some Terradons.
Magicwise the Skinkpriests will nearly never cast, leaving them only for the purpose to get range on the 12 inch spells, sacrificing themselves in the process.
So even if you would consider them as necessary for this, the scroll and cube should go to the Slaans, as they will save those points more likely than the sacrifice Skink Priests.

Another option would be to have a Priest on a Machine of the Gods instead of the Skink Chief with Spear.
He could also give the range for the death spells but would be much harder to eliminate plus the added bonus of the Machine.

I would also consider an Earthing Staff for the Death Slaan as he will take on most of the casting.

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Post  2dipicche on Wed 22 Jun - 20:44

terradonts are 90 points, and if u want to play steg list u don't have them.




by the way last week i spoke with jonathan and he will play with machine of gods Wink


slaans could take scrolls or cube but you have a maximum of 600 for them.



Unnamed2400 Pts - Lizardmen Army

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 310.0 Pts
General; 1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Life; Battle Standard
# Higher State of Consciousness [0.0]
Banner of the Eternal Flame [10.0]

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 290.0 Pts
1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Death
# Focused Rumination [0.0]
Bane Head [15.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 405.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25.0]
Dawn Stone [25.0]
1 Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods @ [290.0] Pts
4 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

1 Skink Priest @ 105.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Cube of Darkness [40.0]

26 Saurus Warriors @ 327.0 Pts
Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Champion @ [12.0] Pts

9 Skink Skirmishers @ 76.0 Pts
Blowpipe
1 Skink Brave @ [6.0] Pts

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

9 Skinks @ 64.0 Pts
Javelin; Shield; Musician
1 Skink Brave @ [8.0] Pts

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

1 Ancient Stegadon @ 275.0 Pts
2 Giant Blow Pipes
5 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

3 Salamander Hunting Packs @ 225.0 Pts
9 Skink Handlers @ [45.0] Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 100


Total Army Cost: 2397.0


the discussion can be about

the priest with cube of darkness. i prefere a second dispell scroll than the terradont unit.

3 chamaleons units or 2 terradonts units? i prefere 3x chamaleons that can be hidden easier, can take WM with poison shooting and are 3 units (to redirect or something like this)

but it can be changed obv
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Re: Lizardmen

Post  Buchi on Thu 23 Jun - 7:07

Stupid me! Very Happy
You are right - I forgot to check the % on lord choices...

The list you proposed last is what I would go for myself quite likely. I would also prefer Chameleons to Terradons.

Great work!

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Re: Lizardmen

Post  David "Phar" Schreyer on Thu 23 Jun - 7:59

just my 2 cents


i like the list


Unnamed2400 Pts - Lizardmen Army

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 310.0 Pts
General; 1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Life; Battle Standard
# Higher State of Consciousness [0.0]
Banner of the Eternal Flame [10.0]

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 290.0 Pts
1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Death
# Focused Rumination [0.0]
Bane Head [15.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 405.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25.0]
Dawn Stone [25.0]
1 Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods @ [290.0] Pts
4 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

1 Skink Priest @ 105.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Cube of Darkness [40.0]

26 Saurus Warriors @ 327.0 Pts
Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Champion @ [12.0] Pts

9 Skink Skirmishers @ 76.0 Pts
Blowpipe
1 Skink Brave @ [6.0] Pts

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

9 Skinks @ 64.0 Pts
Javelin; Shield; Musician
1 Skink Brave @ [8.0] Pts

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

1 Ancient Stegadon @ 275.0 Pts
2 Giant Blow Pipes
5 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

3 Salamander Hunting Packs @ 225.0 Pts
9 Skink Handlers @ [45.0] Pts

Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 100


Total Army Cost: 2397.0


1. but i would take a little bit more CC Power. perhaps a scar veteran? or do you have no need?
2. I dont like the terradons that much. I think the chamäleon skinks are great

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Post  Buchi on Thu 23 Jun - 9:44

Bringing a naked Scar Vet in would only leave 5 points for gear. So the only way to fit one in would be to get rid of the Lvl 1 Skink Priest and with him forego the second Dispel Scroll.

Personally I would rather opt for the Skink Priest. The list should have enough CC as everything has to go through the shooting, magic and 7+1 (Lvl 1 Skinkpriest) redirectors first and then faces 2 Stegies and the Saurus Block.

Not overly agressive played, this list should be able to win around 15:5 or higher when the Death Slaan is doing his job very well.

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Post  2dipicche on Thu 23 Jun - 11:01

yes exactly. the last list doesn't have to search the combat. you try to shot and redirect (even without taking charges) and do some point with lore of death.



onestly I would play light instead of life but he preferes this way to heal stega..



mhm even if i'm not sure that the death slaan can cast usink priests (spells that kill characters are not magic missiles). actually i'm pretty sure he can't.
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Post  Buchi on Wed 6 Jul - 13:59

Some rumours from team germany - so take it with a grain of salt!

Their setup also seems to include the double Slaan - their lore choices would be either Life/Death or Shadow/Death.

Otherwise the list will either include a scar vet spam or will be quite similar to the list last proposed but likely with even more Chameleons.

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Post  Pulps on Sat 9 Jul - 10:07

I suppose we'll see a lot of double slann lists at ETC, its just my opinion =P

Anyway thks for your rumors


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Re: Lizardmen

Post  Pulps on Thu 14 Jul - 14:30

Final List.

Jonathan Pralong - 2400 Pts - Lizardmen Army

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 310.0 Pts
General; 1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Life; Battle Standard
# Higher State of Consciousness [0.0]
Banner of the Eternal Flame [10.0]

1 Slann Mage-Priest @ 290.0 Pts
1 Discipline; Magic Level 4; Lore of Death
# Focused Rumination [0.0]
Bane Head [15.0]

1 Skink Priest @ 405.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Dispel Scroll [25.0]
Dawn Stone [25.0]
1 Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods @ [290.0] Pts
4 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

1 Skink Priest @ 105.0 Pts
Magic Level 1; Lore of Heaven
Cube of Darkness [40.0]

26 Saurus Warriors @ 327.0 Pts
Shield; Standard; Musician
1 Champion @ [12.0] Pts

9 Skink Skirmishers @ 76.0 Pts
Blowpipe
1 Skink Brave @ [6.0] Pts

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

10 Skink Skirmishers @ 70.0 Pts
Blowpipe

9 Skinks @ 64.0 Pts
Javelin; Shield; Musician
1 Skink Brave @ [8.0] Pts

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

5 Chameleon Skinks @ 60.0 Pts
Blowpipe

1 Ancient Stegadon @ 275.0 Pts
2 Giant Blow Pipes
5 Skink Crew @ [0.0] Pts
Javelin

3 Salamander Hunting Packs @ 225.0 Pts
9 Skink Handlers @ [45.0] Pts



Additional Casting Dice: 0

Additional Dispel Dice: 0

Models in Army: 100


Total Army Cost: 2397.0

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